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Paladin or warrior tank bfa I saw it as my main and I hoped that I would Prot warrior and prot pally are probably the two furthest apart tanks currently in bfa, with pallies being at the absolute bottom, and warriors being well ahead at the top. If spec isn’t an issue though then Holy Paladin is always good. Would you all choose pally or monk? Both can fill all three roles. Paladin is taking more damage but makes up for it by reliable self heals. 5 times their mastery, paladins get 1 times their mastery. My main was Ret from MoP to BfA, and I much prefer Fury at this point. They can feel squishier due to the need for balance between tanking and supporting the team. I discovered and have mained Prot Pally since BFA and absolutely love it. Class needs to currently have good tank/dps utility - Good chance of getting raid slots assuming my skill is adequate - Fun rotation for at least one of the class roles. Druid can literally do everything but takes a lot of tuning to get good at anything but tanking. Mythic+ character rankings for Paladin Tanks RETAIL. But everyone saying how shit warrior is talking out of their ass. CATACLYSM. Which one would be preferred for tank/DPS and why? Like the playstyle if tank and fury warrior. For instance. I’ve been playing this paladin this expansion and between Azeroth gear and self heals, it feels like avengers shield is throwing up absorbs like Trying to get into tanking again, and I want to play one of the shield boys. The pally rotations are easier to pick up and the style is more straightforward. Reply reply NYGisLoveNYGisLife • Both are pretty ass imo and I loved both of them back when I quit in mop. They have Warrior Tanks were designed by Blizzard as the "true" tank class for raiding. I prefer paladin and hope that we get the upgrades needed to be a viable raid tank without the cheese of gbok spamming. Base Block is 10% for all shield-users in BfA, and protection warriors get a passive +8% on top of that. Demon Hunters aren’t in a very good spot right now. Most tanks gameplay changes dynamically depending on how many enemies you engage. PvE - Tank, Healer, or retri (Paladin tanks are preferred over Warrior tanks in Debating between my pally or warrior. I tanked with blood in SL and with veng/guardian in BFA. Even in lower mythic, you'll get invited faster as a paladin. PvE - Tank, Healer, or retri (Paladin tanks are preferred over Warrior tanks in most raids) 2. I want an alt on alliance and I’m absolutely torn between these two for tanking purposes. Play warrior if you want to be straight forward tank. I failed the first 2 times with the Warrior. Warriors, Paladins and DK that are learning to master their spec tend to have a more “staggered” way of proceeding, mobs are scattered in a wider Hard to say because we don't know what either class will look like when it's fully fleshed out. As mentioned before, Between warrior and paladin, i’d pick Brewmaster every single time. Devastation Evoker. I primarily do m+. By that I mean that their rotation are a bit more complex than say a Prot Warrior or a Bear tank, but their complexity scale in a different direction. And the least damage taken with most damage done is the current meta us prot warriors. RWF Coverage LIVE Arms Warrior. with the belf pally im levelling now is ridiculous. Hello everybody. Okay ladies n gents. Both pally and warrior are tied for my second favorite class and I can’t decide which one i want the most. Plan on slipping in and helping raid squads through all phases and blasting 5 man dungeons to help people gear up and level. Mackzim 187 fire mage, I rip aggro off most tanks on half of the pulls aoe or single target, unless the tank is a DH or Prot Pally. Elemental Shaman. Paladins have incredibly strong defensive cooldowns, as well as a strong dps/hps cooldown. Generally speaking. I've an "older" paladin I could level or an "older" warrior to 120 (and then also play shadowlands on). Warriors with a healer behind them are way more durable. WHO I used to play Tankadin and it was really fun, ive recently rolled a warrior tank but im only level 20 so lets not count that. Very sought after in M+, and essential to have one in raids. Trying to decide on which one I want to start playing. DK if you didn't play during EN and hope there are high magic damage fights. I do like tanking as an offspec for quick dungeon queues, but mostly I am a DPS I swapped from warrior tanking to pally tanking last expansion and never looked back. I like prot paladin because you get to throw a shield at enemies like Captain America. On paladin i really don’t like the DPs specc. Warriors can generate more Revenge procs, Druids can take talents to generate massively more amounts of rage with more enemies, Paladins have more chances to proc Avenger's Shield; but DK's just keep moving at the same pace. ive levelled a sublety rogue and surviving a 3 mob encounter without flee is really difficult. Warriors are fun, I have a 120 but he rarely get’s let out of his cage. I made a warrior in BFA (boosted to 110) Warrior tank for M+ is not as strong now as it has been in the past. Tournament: Teams. In addition I've really enjoyed Havoc since BfA. Currently on Benediction (Alliance), but certainly willing to relocate if the right fit is out there. They have 2 ways of ignoring certain boss mechanics if it's ever needed with Blessing of Protection(Spellwarding talent for Mythic+ character rankings for Paladin Tanks RETAIL. I know druid tanking got dull, but running around as a boomkin was interesting. Detailed explanation below, but the TL;DR is: Prot Pally higher APM, higher DPS output, more utility, low skill floor but higher skill ceiling. Tanking this week reminds me of WotLK and Cata tanking - awesome amounts of fun. I loved tanking and all the paladin has to offer even aesthetically. Specially on 5man mythics. I tanked up 17s on my prot paladin then switched to bear and could tell how little I was able to help my group compared to bear and in certainly all the other tanks Also warriors and most tanks are almost just as tanky as each other at the moment it’s mostly coming Mythic+ character rankings for Paladin Tanks RETAIL. Play a prot warrior, prot paladin, Last time I picked a tank warrior in my +12 he didn't know the dungeons mechanics at all. But now, after Shadowlands I don’t want to ruin my transmog and pick something else than the Kyrian 2-hand mace as weapon. As I mention in another thread the Legion to BFA change was hard for me to pick up in monk DPS. Equal footing of course a paladin will pull ahead, but people seem to think a warrior tank is the embodiment of mid. Hi! I’m copying the same post from warrior forums to see your opinion also!! Hi guys, Im trying melee dps and I wanted to ask you what would you recommend to play first for someone coming as a ranged dps (you know, melee and ranged isn’t the same and some specs feel just to slow standing there autoattacking). Only warriors and paladins get block from mastery. The Paladin though I spent a good 30 minutes fighting it, The Protection Paladin will be the utility focused tank that can bring a number of tools to a group that can help it succeed. I find switching up the main from time to time can bring some freshness to the game. pally is right now but Prot Paladin is stable but BORING. Paladin for fun. Ret seems more sturdy than WW, and Brew seems more consistent in tanking. Demonology Warlock. Paladin survivability is only good if they stop damage, and an MS or dampening is a pretty massive counter to it. Not trying to counter every single post, just want some input from paladin tanks. Ignore Pain has been P On kin'garoth I sit around and take 2-3 hits from hammers while our pally tank runs around collecting balls. It’s actually more like this: DK -> Monk -> Druid -> Paladin -> Warrior. Looking to tank in wotlk, and I see people are saying paladin is the best, though DK does higher damage in late expansion. I always find that the best way to organize these posts is to break - em down into a sort of “my resume + what I have to offer” and a “what I’m looking for” section. If you want to heal, and would rather be in ranged, priest may be a better choice. Hello, I’m looking at boosting a tank and cannot decide between the two. But nostalgia and past history is making me think about swapping to a paladin tank in TBC. never get so disappointed before. For a competitive player with a good group, could DK edge out paladin because of that damage advantage? Or is survivability that big of a problem. Assassination Rogue. Mostly because of Warrior disciplines and taunt. Even healers hate you and complain how its hp is very spiky. Worldwide’ I am trying to level every class to 25 before Phase 2 begins and then choose my main among them. - Prefer tanking and DPS over healing, but will do healing if necessary. I saw it as my main and I hoped that I would stick with it. Warriors have an easier rotation (from what ive been told) but ive noticed in ALOT of raids that our warrior tanks die Prot paladin. Reply reply More replies. h = 1 / 0. Thought I’d ask you folks first: Which tank is easier? Why? Which tank do you prefer? What’s the best/worst part about playing it? Thanks as In Cata I mailed a prot paladin and absolutely loved it. Your kit is fairly basic with your main focus just maintaining ironskin brew and clearing when necessary with purifying. While demon hunters spam random keys and survive somehow. I fell in love with pally tanks on accident using it for quick ques while lvling. Mostly on trash as the bosses are pretty easy. That being said, I’ve only really tried up to mythic 8’s on a 200 prot pally and normals on a 184 vengeance DH. A paladin conversely is somewhat of a mini-Lightforged, being infused with the Light and a conduit thereof. But Paladin 5-man tanks are absolutely a thing. I mainly main a dps but wouldn’t hurt to try other specs as well such as tanking. Paladins can solo farm far better than any class (outside mage, mostly). I mained a DK and DH in Legion and in legion the Dk was unstoppable. The tank specc is Which is more fun with and without current performance. Tanks are ranked as follows: (1) Warrior (2) Druid (3) Paladin (4) Shaman Paladin and Shaman can’t do much outside of 5-mans. Title says it all. simple question, which is doing better right now? warrior, or pally? asking cause i wanna learn to tank, and both of these classes can use shields also cause they look pretty fun, and i can’t really decide which to go Definitely keep an eye on BfA testing. Both are very good tanks, so I think it probably depends on the mob. As a paladin, if you get bored of tanking you'll have a melee DPS or healer. I've been a warrior tank for a while so I know the whole mechanics well, just never bothered leveling up a paladin so I was mainly wondering who effective they are overall. Mythic+ Rankings for Paladin Tanks (BFA Season 4) First Prev Next Last Mythic+ Keystone Character Rankings; 1: Noobadin Sargeras. i've level all 3 to max in legion and had my monk somewhat geared at one point, but i realized why i loved my main(dk), and that is that i dont mind being less mobile when that is balanced out with being more tanky when actually fighting. So I'm starting to play BFA now and will play Shadowlands as it comes out. You gotta use your rotation perfectly, kite and use your defensives when team Tank classes are far from balanced. I have I find that the classes I like the most currently are Warrior and Paladin. I would like to continue playing a prot paladin, Warrior tanks were kings in vanilla. My friend plays a Paladin tank, and it seems we are almost playing to different game. How exactly is a duel any indication of tanking class balance? Hell, dueling 1v1 isn't even an indication of PvP class balance! But yeah pvp is another story, but in pve, a paladin tank still>warrior tank. All of the tank class rankings came out before people had raid gear and optimized stats. But honestly, pick whichever will be fun for you. I have both, and I can promise you, unequivocally, that you will have more fun playing a prot warrior compared to a prot paladin. Paladin is better if you are in an unknown team, because they can deal with unexpected problems better. I main healer and off tank and warriors are my favorite Hey guys, I have a Prot. Paladin is a melee plate class with a tank, heal and dps spec, while a priest is a ranged cloth class with two healing specs and a dps spec. Raids. In BFA I stopped tanking on my warrior because I saw people playing mages and melting shit so I made a mage, leveled it geared it New to the role, and I say this as a die hard warrior, roll paladin. It's simple, fun and engaging. 2a: Priests are not bound to only use Holy magic. with some other classes like rogue and shadowpriest sometimes could be tricky. Warrior for the old but gold pick. 1 if not sooner. Hi there, looking for a new toon to lvl , want to tank and dps, tanking will mostly be mytic+. Paladin’s have a more “all-round” type kit with more self-healing etc. You know in deep protection paladin is the squishiest. You jsut manage mobs and trying to do all the In high mythic, paladin is the best out of all tanks, and warrior is the worst out of all tanks. Mythic+ content has blood DK shitting all over the other tanks. Both are a lot of fun and have a fairly busy rotation. I feel warriors are chad raid tanks and paladins are beefy dungeon tanks, and I have choice paralysis. In Shadowlands, Protection actually got new tools to be a better utility tank -- Devotion Aura , and easier access to Hand of the Protector ; this goes along with the tools that they've always had: Blessing of Protection , Blessing of Sacrifice , and all This time around, I'm a warrior main tank with Thunderfury. Looking at this from a long term perspective as a new xpac is If the fight is one boss who hits really hard with a lot of tank mechanics then Paladin / warrior / death knight will be on top. Mage is the only non 70 I have and is almost always the last to get leveled. And Shaman tanking is considered meme tanking. My original plan was keeping on healing but my friend and I decided to switch roles next expansion so I’d like to spend time getting back into tanking. Since you want to choose between Paladin and Warrior in both PvP and PvE, I'd say go for paladin because of the following reasons. I played fury warrior most time of BFA and really enjoyed it. The good thing about the other 2 tanks is they can perform a wider array of roles than warrior: paladins can tank, heal and melee dps while druids can tank, provide good dps while not tanking (something warrior tanks lack), healing and proper dps, But at the end of the day, I was just dead weight as a paladin healer. If a prot warrior is an Abrams main battle tank, a prot paladin is a rock. So I am kinda forced to play Playing a paladin tank and ignoring blessings and healing and such is like playing a bear and ignoring ironfur. I like both for different reasons. The best two by far are brewmaster and blood DK. If you want to play prot to level, you can do so solely off dungeons (if you hate questing like I do) and you will almost instantly find groups. I’m really curious if you’ve raided in vanilla because the (warrior) tank’s health bar likes to go back and forth very frequently when they’re not outgearing the content. Pretty much anything but a paladin or warrior is in a pretty good place right now. The pally tank may be a little more self-sufficient but it you plan to run dungeons that won't matter. I'm considering a main switch to tanking, but I don't know much about how tanks are looking in BfA right now. It can be fun but it can also be soul crushing solo I personally always have a paladin, dk and warrior at max level. I’d say Fury is more survivable right now as they don’t need to sacrifice DPS to heal/mitigate. Hello all, I have come to you, the WoW gods, to ask for your help. Edit to add: I also think Paladin tanks generally have more damage, so they might be able to kill things Paladin are probably better than warriors because they don’t get globalled as often as the damage isn’t that high. Unlike paladins a priest is capable of using Shadow magic as well as Holy, such a thing we see of Anduin in MOP. Odds are good that I'll pass over DK m a solo player that just pugs content now, lots of open world content solo and island expeditions. I mained warrior for most of BFA. I find that the classes I like the most currently are Warrior and Paladin. I enjoy MW and have struggled to get into Hpal, but have gone against some Hpals who are amazing. Specifically how easy to heal, there tps, how well they can deal with damage, etc. Both have strong tank specs, both have fun, to me anyways, dps playstyles. Pally is EZ mode but can be very satisfying as well. I'm thinking it will be much the same in BfA. The tanking aspect and transformation into a Double Jump is this extra layer of video game fun. Thanks! Depends what you want to do. I’ve been having a lot of fun, BUT I’m starting to notice big issues with the class. I like the gameplay of warrior, but I love the lore of paladin. I joined this game with BfA and played back then exclusively Tank because I love the gameplay of a Protection Paladin. Blood is probably the best all around tank at the moment but brews are really really close behind them and pretty much tied in raiding with them. Cant pick between Warrior or Paladin , I only play PvE and don’t want to heal, so that’s not a plus for me (pally) Also maybe with the changes shadowlands bringing? How is Warrior self healing as dps? How are both doing dps wise? Wich 1 would be winning if both got same ilvl Bosses like Chromaggus can eat geared warrior tanks in 2 attacks. Brew is just better designed for raid and it's been a problem ever since BFA added k-values. Paladins couldn't hold aggro without spell spam and Shadowknights (EQ Dire Lord) couldn't really do it as reliably for as long. paladin dk bear warrior. There's also a boss in Uldir which gives 25% healing reduction for 8 seconds. Just try to duel another tank specc as prot warrior. Right now I’m up to Mythic 6 on my Warrior, and I can usually clear it. Druid has a pretty steep curve as cat dps but it can be alot of fun. If your goal is m+ and Warrior is better if you are in a good team. The main thing I look for is something that wont get Pally is overall a much better tank than warrior. one of my IRL friends used to tank as a warrior and ive seen a fair few warrior tanks too in raids. I am very stuck between which class to play next. Death Knights can tank with a 2-hand weapon. But sometimes if my healer/dps is lacking I notice it takes a lot out of me to clear the In my effort to become ‘Mr. I played warrior at the start of Shadowlands and still Paladin tanking is far more fun to me, but I’m not a big fan of holy as it stands right now. What are the major pros and cons of both classes in TBC? I know there are a lot less tank positions in TBC and usually even fewer for warriors because Paladins/Druids get a lot better at tanking. As a tank player I have never felt as challenged by the game as during MoP - especially when solo tanking certain fights that were clearly intended for two tanks. Warrior Ilvl 199. Mythic+ Rankings for Paladin Tanks (BFA Season 1) First Prev Next Last Mythic+ Keystone Character Rankings; 1: Noobadin Sargeras. Warrior in DF is the most fun ive had in years My favorite aspects are: multiple viable builds. Warrior is also WAY more fun imo atm, the dance around 80 rage is far more engaging than being a paladin and just smashing your abilities as they come off cooldown The most important thing is to not worry about it too much, all 3 specs of both classes are great for raids and mythic+ and if you want to tank, well, these two are god tier tanks (pally is the king of interrupts and does a lot of off-healing while prot warrior is great for Hey there! As the title suggests, I’m looking for a guild to raid with in Cata classic. That being said both are strong and alluring in their own ways. Basically- Fury or Ret. tetragrammaton and divine benison are your taurochole, assize is a phlegma + ixochole, temperance (wings) is your holos, asylum is a placed physis, lillies are a combination of addersgal and addersting (3 lily heals allows the cast of a DPS GCD worth 4 toxikons and you gain lillies slowly overtime), aquaveil I main a prot paladin in BfA, and I realize they aren't very strong this expansion. Warriors get 0. I can kind of explain WHM in the terms of SGE to try and help it make sense. So far, I have leveled: Priest, Warlock, Druid, Rogue, and my Hunter hit 25 last night. This design philosophy is different from Battle for Azeroth, where each class that fulfills the same role gets roughly the same toolkit. Alright. I also use prot for world questing. Blizz made threat impossible in legion prepatch then fixed in early bfa Reply reply More replies. im talkin just about levelling. If your having troubles tanking anything below a M+10 this guide may help you out. Warriors are able to tank every boss in the game at least to acceptable levels (some specific fights benefit other tanks a bit more). I actually prefer healing warriors in +20 keys over paladins because the damage is more consistent vs spikey. I love the I can’t decide on a human warrior or paladin. In the endgame, you'd want a Dire Lord type as a group tank, but a Warrior as a raid tank. 133 votes, 51 comments. If you don't mind having zero mobility and being pretty much stuck in one place, paladin might be for you. Im stuck between maining a paladin or warrior from now and into shadowlands. Hard to say because we don't know what either class will look like when it's fully fleshed out. My Paladin is my main alt and because of how alt unfriendly this expansion is he only did +6-+8 but def squishy but has tons of o crap buttons and cheese This is my first expansion that I've done any kind of tanking and so far it's been fun. Paladin can certainly tank everything but you’re going to have to hunt a little harder for thenideal set and stuff like mana management is going to be a big part of your Warrior needs to both generate a resource (Rage) and spend it on the correct things (Shield Block, Ignore Pain, or Revenge) depending on circumstance, which is less true for other tank specialisations (Paladin spends virtually all Holy Power generated on I'm not sure what the logic for them is in Pantheon, but they seem pretty similar. Currently maining prot warrior for season 4. Im not big in healing due to the pressure it puts me under, so i dont think id ever play as a holy pally but im not sure. Warrior overall is the better tank for M+ since we have such high physical damage absorb. As a tank, it's lots of fun and the mechanics in BFA require some level of thought to do. Warriors are already tried and tested to be great raid tanks, so they are definitely a safe bet if that is your goal. Add mechanics on top of that (Time Lapse) and you have a dead-ass tank. BFA: Prot Warrior: How to counter M+ BURSTING & GREVIOUS Do the following. Changes. M+ gigapulls come close to the level of challenge, but raids nowadays are often rather boring/simple from a tanking perspective. :P The pally change will definitely suck, but you (and others) might be like Hey folks, retail tank here. Having played BDK, ProtPal and ProtWarr, the most OP tank atm is probs bear druid. Having a tough time deciding. When I get home, I will create my new alt and I want him to be a Tank but As opposed to the massive changes that Legion brought for most tanks, BfA is shying away from many major Warrior. Warriors can not, Paladins can not. Prot Warrior definitely requires more dependence on cool downs (You have plenty) to stay stable, but is 10000x more interesting and fun to play. The Warrior changes should be interesting. Classic main was a Druid, BC was Paladin, WotLK was Hunter, Cataclysm was Warrior, MoP was Death Knight, WoD was Mage, Legion was a mix of Warrior/Death Knight/Paladin no fucking clue what i'm going to do in BfA, probably Warrior for Alliance and Death Knight for Horde I know we've had a lot of discussion recently about why people tank, heal and DPS, but i'm curious as someone who plays both Warrior and Paladin This guide is for people that are having problems tanking as a warrior through dungeon and mythic+ content. Warrior is looking really strong in this xpack. I play Ret paladin and DPS warrior currently in BFD. I could easily solo world bosses given enough time. Personal opinion as a new tank I would suggest brewmaster. 1. Eve Ascension 3 Tournament. It can be done, but should only be done for laughs or there is literally no one else available that can tank. I am sitting at work currently as of this post 3:30 EST on 12/26/2023. Because compared to other tank specs. Warriors have one healing ability called victory rush, which can be talented to impending victory. Please pay attention to the part I say “play first”, On the other hand, against physical damage I swear warrior tanks are basically unkillable. Paladins have a better sustained survivability, and CC then Warriors. for me the problem is the differences between classes: levelling and surviving with pet classes (hunter, lock) or ret is a breeze. Pally is overall a much better tank than warrior. So i’ll do just that. Feral Druid. 94 for blocking in BfA, this is the same as Legion, which we verified with in-game tests. Meanwhile, with a Warrior, once you set up an ignore pain macro, 1. No, my friend. I generally tank, but enjoy dpsing as well. Personally i would go paladin. If you’re going for longevity then Warrior is best choice; I’m betting Ret will be nerfed in 9. CLASSIC ERA. Proper At the end of BfA when I returned after having last played during MoP it was a toss up between Bear or Prot. They can clear content as Vengeance, but it’s so much more efficient to just bring another tank 99% of the time. In the mythic plus community, prot paladin is the meta tank right now. I think warrior tanks are worst, The end of BFA when BM hunters were top dps everyone played them because they have such and easy rotation. prot pally was also the tank i learned to tank on because i felt its pretty straight forward with that and have a decent Paladin gives you much more diverse build options. I want to do everything from world pvp, to arenas, raids, m+, and soloing. This would mostly be for M+ I have tanked before but it’s a been a really long time and narrowed my choices down between these two. A lot of prot paladins don’t bother to stand in the consecrate or put it back down after moving. TALENT 15 - [Impending Victory] - direct self healing, on . Paladin is far easier to level , but warrior blows it out of the water for end game dps when played properly. Feral Druids and Prot Paladins can tank, but have more weaknesses and omissions in their toolkits. RWF Coverage LIVE Protection Warrior. This can all change from patch to patch based on items available from raids and talent changes etc. First expansion maining my Pally and I'm playing holy for raids but I'll tank the occasional dungeon when I don't feel like healing. 2200io M+ 5 spec tank prot warrior, prot pally, bdk, brm & vdh. Paladin tanks are insanely good in tbc for leveling. One time, during BFA, I went into Antorus, and oof’d the first boss. PvP and PvE - You can choose different spec for PvP - Healer and retri for arena and bgs. DH if you want to play the best Mythic+ tank and see people crying that the class needs to be nerfed when every tank in the next MDI is DH. I have most classes at max level. Its not about rotation, gear or mitigation uptime. If you would rather be in melee and like the idea of having a tank off spec as well, then paladin seems like a better choice. A well played warrior will tank circles around a medium played paladin. A paladin, being a conduit of Holy magic, is incapable of this. Monk is very cool and fun (on all 3 specs imo) but paladin is objectively one of the best, if not the best, healer all around in Legion. . I still played Vengeance in Mythic+ for but I never feel like I'm hitting hard enough as havoc; paladin plays a little slower than warrior and feels clunkier, but they have Protection Paladin! Not much you can’t solo with a pally tank my friend, I do everything on this toon including heal groups, you can solo most dungeons up to Mythic quite easily and I don’t have issues with Visions either. Announcement. Eve Ascension 3. jyoqpyqqtwhdfvtymgcsxxpwvxflayamzqtheawdonioqokwhlqwjadfwjmdqysmrprifao